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  Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  richard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .

  'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.

  'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.

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  i'm atheist--and cant be bothered with christmas. But my wife loves it--tree decs on in november--loads of prezz for everyone. But then she is Roman Catholic filipina--so what do you expect ?

  By the way--Seabreeze --are you in the UK ?
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  Theory on the GB "new light" pushing back the final judgment.

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are several threads already on this "new light", but i didn't see one that covered this particular angle.. since the gb seem to have an ulterior motive for everything they do, well beyond their publicly stated reasons, i began to wonder why they would be concerned with pushing back the closing of the window of jesus' judgement.

  this is especially puzzling because the doctrine of the start of great tribulation being the final cutoff was one that the gb seemed to especially revel in for so long.

  they could hang it over everyone's heads as a looming threat.

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  whats happened to Easy prompt ?
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

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  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  Oddly enough--when i got any remaining ties severed--by them--in 1981, i never gave it a thought that it was NOT the truth--just that i didnt want to be a member of it. Its only really since ive been on here over the last 12 years or so, ive come to realise it really isnt the true religion at all. Its just a big business with a few million members.

  In my mind--there is no such thing as a real live god--only a long history of men who believed there is.-but that proves nothing--just confirms that man made god to explain what men didnt understand .
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  Nepotism and Simony

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've read on here about connected families within congregations who seem to get all the "privileges".

  how likely is an elder's son, or other relative, to rise within the ranks?.

  i imagine it's harder to do it that way once you start to ascend the ranks.

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  I get confused with Simony and sodomy--or do they mean the same thing ? Trying to get up someones arse
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  “You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”

  by Athanasius in

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  2. friends

  the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?

  in my dreams i saw the carts.

  they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.

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  informal witnessing:

  i do that whenever the chance arises--especially facebook groups.

  such as--loss of family contact because of JW shunning--tell everyone about it.
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  How's the 14,669 New Zealand brotherhood reacting to Steve's MIT talk?

  by was a new boy in

  1. social
  2. current

  the latest.

  stkirsch24 minutes ago.

  there is no question: the leaked data shows the vaccines have killed over 13 million people worldwide.

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  There is no question: the leaked data shows the vaccines have killed over 13 MILLION people worldwide

  13 million--out of a global population of...how many ?

  If there were no vaccines--how many would have died from covid--? Any guesses ?
  
  
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  It’s started 🤦‍♀️

  by MissDaSilva in

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  2. friends

  i already have a friend who is trying to tell me that my mental health is causing my disillusionment with the jehovah’s witnesses.

  funny that a mental health therapist has told me my mental health issues are caused by being a jehovah’s witness.

  i’m still not going back.

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  MissDaSilva14 hours agoThanks guys 🙏
  “Actually, I could do with a few extra quid to get some Christmas presents and some decent grub for Christmas dinner - how about getting your wallet out Brother Brown?” 😆
  Has to be worth a shot at least.

  Actually--this is something i have suggested on here a few times. Ask the elders for a loan to get you through a difficult time--Big gas and Electricity bill ?--a few ££ hundred would really help. Stress its just a loan....

  Just do it--what have you got to lose ?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are suing the Dutch state for discrimination

  by jochie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jehovah's witnesses believe it is unfair that the state only investigated their handling of abuse cases, and not other religious organizations.jehovah's witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the national government told trouw.

  the reason: only their handling of sexual abuse has been scrutinized by the government, while other religious groups remained unaffected.

  they find the fact that only they were the 'target' unfounded and therefore discriminatory.. the fact that a religious organization is suing the state is 'fairly unique', says special professor of law and religion paul van sasse van ijsselt.

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  Great--i hope they win. They could use the publicity.
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  I hate the way they talk.

  by Riley in

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  2. bible

  what is with the jw cadence when they speak.

  do they think they are teaching people ?

  they sound like pro wrestlers doing promos or shakespearean actors.

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  when talking to one of them--they reply WE believe this--that etc. Never I believe. Its like you are excluded.
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  The Saddest Thing About Tony Morris's Removal

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've mentioned before how i've wondered how tony morris must have felt when he was sacked.

  yes, i know he's a rehensible human being who got served a healthy dose of karma, or, if you like, divine judgement.

  to go from having all there is to have within the world he lived in, to where he is now; that's a long fall.

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  Tony who ?